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Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout"

Author Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com>
Full name Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com>
Date 2005-07-28 11:40:06 PDT
Message Ken,

Are you subscribed to the dev list? That would be a better place to
continue this discussion...

Paul

Kenneth Wong wrote:

>There's definitely a lot of work involved but I think it's well worth
>the effort. And to top it off, I wouldn't mind taking a stab at it.
>:) Here were my initial thoughts...
>
>I'm wondering whether or not we can reduce the number of template
>files by using the <div> tags. The <div> tags would be used to
>logically seperate page elements much like how the template files are
>being used right now.
>
>Plug-ins would be responsible for spitting out HTML code surrounded by
>a div tag with a specific ID. The Layout of all the <div> tags would
>be handled via a variety of CSS files (one for each different layout
>on the website).
>
>I think my plan of attack would be:
>(1) Generate a layout via CSS with a menu down the left hand side,
>main content on the right, a header and a footer.
>(2) Modify the templates that control the header, menu, and footer to use CSS.
>
>I should be able to do that without modifying any of the core PHP code
>that makes up co-wiki. If that works out alright, then I may try
>tackling a couple of plugins.
>
>With any luck, I'll be able to come up with some benchmarks in terms
>of performance changes.
>
>Any chance I can take a look at your work with cowiki/css? :)
>
>Ken.
>oh, and I'm *not* a CSS Guru... just a guy with some knowledge and a
>hankering to try to use some of it. :)
>
>On 7/28/05, Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> wrote:
>
>
>>I've been looking at this. The biggest problem I see is that there is a
>>*lot* of stuff to convert. Generally speaking, all of our formatting is
>>done with the template files in the TPL directory. Plugins should *not*
>>be generating their own HTML except by using a template themselves.
>>
>>I have a start of coWiki using CSS. It's rather a pleasure to work with
>>because the HTML is simpler but I'm not yet enough of a CSS guru to lay
>>stuff out without constantly rechecking my work. :-)
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>lostwong at tigris dot org wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://cowiki.tigris​.org/issues/show_bug​.cgi?id=14
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------- Additional comments from lostwong at tigris dot org Thu Jul 28 09:25:08 -0700 2005 -------
>>>Some possible benefits of using CSS:
>>>
>>>- graceful fallback to non-compliant/older-generation browsers
>>>- should be easier to mantain cross-platform support
>>>- possibly faster load times due to less code in the html and more of it in a
>>>shared CSS stylesheet
>>>- make it easier to create third party themes/templates for the wiki
>>>
>>>I've noticed that there's html formatting code throughout a lot of the plugins
>>>and templates. To make a fully themable system may require some re-working of
>>>how the templates and plugins are structured and how they interact.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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[Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" lostwong Kenneth Wong 2005-07-28 09:25:08 PDT
     Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-07-28 09:49:28 PDT
         Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" lostwong Kenneth Wong 2005-07-28 11:03:55 PDT
             Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-07-28 11:40:06 PDT
                 Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" lostwong Kenneth Wong 2005-07-28 13:06:56 PDT
                     Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-07-28 13:47:11 PDT
         Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" ytjohn John Hogenmiller 2005-08-02 20:33:07 PDT
             Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-08-02 20:51:26 PDT
                 Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-08-02 20:56:16 PDT
                     Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" ytjohn John Hogenmiller 2005-08-02 21:32:02 PDT
                 Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" ytjohn John Hogenmiller 2005-08-02 21:29:07 PDT
                     Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> Paul Hanchett <paul dot hanchett at gmail dot com> 2005-08-02 21:43:26 PDT
                         Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" dgorski Daniel T. Gorski 2005-08-03 00:08:13 PDT
                         Re: [cowiki-issues] [Issue 14] (52) Get away from "table layout" lostwong Kenneth Wong 2005-08-03 07:59:52 PDT
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